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mhhf1ve
6/14/2016 3:24:53 AM
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How does YouTube handle Siri searches?
Google/Youtube has its own voice search, so I'm curious how Siri fits with that.. or does it just run on top of Youtube somehow? I'd be surprised if Google allowed 3rd parties to run their own voice search UI on top of Youtube's.. but maybe Google cut a deal with Apple?
clrmoney
6/14/2016 10:44:03 AM
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Apple Sign ons
I think this is great apple is doing this so that people can just sign on oce to access the available apps for themselves.
mhhf1ve
6/14/2016 12:46:50 PM
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The devil is in the details, as always. Xbox One and the Amazon Fire Tv have a similar single-sign on feature, but there's always some balance between security and convenience with single-sign on. These devices could make everything open once you sign on -- but then parents might have to deal with kids buying apps/games/movies without explicit consent. Apple has a decent process for refunding "accidental" purchases -- after parents sued bc kids were too easily able to tap and buy apps or in-app items...
vnewman
6/14/2016 3:24:25 PM
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Re: Apple Sign ons
@mhhf1ve - SSO puts the onus on the user to be vigilant enough to know what's happening with your account at all times. Most people don't. I personally would rather be bothered up front typing in my password than be bothered with the aftermath of dozens of "accidental" purchases.
elizabethv
6/15/2016 7:52:36 AM
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I really like that Amazon requires a different password to be entered when I purchase something new from them - and I wish other companies would follow suit. I'm easily logged into all of my apps on SmartTV and even my WiiU, but if I decide to buy a new season of Paw Patrol, I have a password that is completely different than my log in to do so. Which means my toddlers can't get passed the screen to complete the purchase and have to call for my help. As a parent, an extra step in purchasing anything, makes me happy. Now if only those tablets they put on your table at restaurants anymore would do the same thing.......
mhhf1ve
6/15/2016 12:07:32 PM
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I, too, sorta like how Amazon requires a PIN for FireTV videos that aren't free with Prime, but even Amazon doesn't get it quite right because it requires a PIN for videos you already own and some free videos, too.
Ariella
6/15/2016 1:07:49 PM
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@mhhf1ve do you mean it requiers a PIN no matter what you do? Maybe it does that for its own data tracking to know how many times you view a particular video.
mhhf1ve
6/15/2016 1:18:34 PM
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No... A PIN isn't required for everything, but I'm not sure how Amazon FireTV figures out when to prompt for a PIN. Always for videos that you don't own. But not always for Amazon Prime videos that are free.
Ariella
6/15/2016 1:24:22 PM
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@mhhf1ve You mean it's inconsistent?
mhhf1ve
6/15/2016 5:03:12 PM
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> "You mean it's inconsistent?"
Hmm. I don't necessarily think so -- I might just not have noticed the correct pattern. Maybe there's a timeout period? I haven't been bothered enough to try to figure it out...
Or perhaps FireTV changes its settings for its sign-in requirements with background updates, and I noticed a change from previous behavior -- and now it's consistent? Amazon does tend to push FireOS updates somewhat randomly, and I noticed that the updates do affect the sign-in prompts.
elizabethv
6/16/2016 8:38:43 AM
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@mhhf1ve That's really interesting, I don't know that I've ever had to put in a PIN when watching a Prime video. I'll have to keep an eye out. I do agree that would be annoying when the video is free anyway. My kids can watch all the free stuff they want - except YouTube. I really wish I could figure out how to get rid of YouTube on our tablet. My son gets sucked into the black hole of play-doh eggs and toy reviews and it's hard to bring him back out.
mhhf1ve
6/16/2016 10:26:30 AM
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The YouTube app can be deleted... And you can set the restrictions to require a passcode to install apps. You can also set restrictions to hide Safari so no one can go to youtube.com either.
elizabethv
6/30/2016 10:17:12 PM
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@mhhf1ve - The YouTube app actually cannot be deleted, at least not on my phone or my husbands tablet. I promise, I've tried. At least not by any normal methods. Perhaps if I wanted to get into the actual base of my phone and look through the coding, it could be. But I'm not interested, I'd probably mess something up. Though I was able to get a parenting app that allowed me to simply put the apps I was okay with my child accessing (Netflix, Hulu and Amazon) and also runs it's own timer that then kicks my son out and requires him to enter the PIN. All is not hopeless, just simply frustrated.
mhhf1ve
7/1/2016 4:31:33 AM
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Elizabethv, hmm. What iOS version are you on? I'm 100% sure that you can delete the YouTube app post-iOS 7. But if you're running an old iOS, then I'm not so sure. But then, I'm also amazed 1) that you're still running iOS 6 or earlier, 2) that the old YouTube app still works bc I thought Google shut down the old YouTube apps that were included by default with earlier iOS versions.
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@mhhf1ve - I suppose there was a misunderstanding along the way. My phone is a Samsung S6, thus the lack of ability to delete the YouTube app. I had no idea iOS offered the ability to delete the YouTube app. That is certainly an appealing reason to get an iPhone, now that I know of this. Thanks. :-)
mhhf1ve
7/2/2016 4:12:42 PM
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elizabethv, Ahhh. I guess I thought we were talking about Apple devices... Google, like Apple, doesn't allow users to its own apps. Although I think Apple just announced that it's going to start allowing users to delete the default Apple apps in iOS. I don't think Google will ever follow suit for that because that's how Google makes money on Android and it's a requirement for Android hardware makers to include Google apps. Only forks of Android like Amazon's Fire OS and Cyanogenmod don't require Google apps (but then require their own set of apps).
elizabethv
7/31/2016 9:44:37 PM
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@mhhf1ve - Actually, it's funny that you mention Amazon Fire not requiring Google. My husband recently acquired an Amazon Fire tablet, and he wanted Chrome for the browser, which actually wasn't an immediate option. I'm not sure what all he had to do to get it, I just know it wasn't very easy. It would be nice if we could all just get a device and tailor it to our preferences instead of dealing with all of the who has what rights where complications. But I guess that's just the way the world works right now.
mhhf1ve
8/4/2016 6:06:12 PM
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> "My husband recently acquired an Amazon Fire tablet, and he wanted Chrome for the browser.."
Yup. I had to do the same sideloading tricks to get my Fire tablet to use a Mozilla browser.
At least it's possible to sideload apps.. it makes it a bit less secure, but... what can you do --besides pay a lot more for a device with better support or create your own OS and hardware set up...
dcawrey
6/18/2016 10:53:47 AM
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6,000 apps? That seems like a lot.
I'm sure there are some apps that are useful. It seems to me that's a huge number though. What's the utility of all these apps? Do they help or hinder the viewing experience?
dlr5288
6/25/2016 8:36:19 PM
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That does seem like a lot!
I don't know which ones will actually be useful, but I do know that a lot of the ones on my phone/tablet now are useless to me personally. All it does is take up space!
freehe
6/28/2016 11:44:32 PM
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Apple Sign ons
I am shocked by the data. I was not aware that there were over 6,000 apps and over 1,300 video channels available.
I like single sign-on however security measures must be put in place. Single sign-on should use two factor authentication and complex password standards.
Two of my telco service providers at least use two factor authentication.
Providing apps and data is great but if users cannot access it in a secure manner it becomes a risk to the user and the company offering it.
freehe
6/28/2016 11:47:20 PM
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Apple Sign ons for users
I noticed this will my Apple accounts. Single Sign-On does not apply to all Apple apps for existing users. New users may be able to access the single sign-on feature which is great.
For existing users who created account prior to the implementation of single sign on will have to maintain multiple logons for each Apple app.
If Apple provides a way to create a single sign-on for multiple apps for existing users this would be great.
dlr5288
6/30/2016 7:48:20 PM
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True, there is a security risk involved. I think as long as security is held high on the priority list and taken care of, there shouldn't be a problem.
elizabethv
6/30/2016 10:20:22 PM
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@freehe - I completely agree, security needs to be foremost. Lack of security at best creates headaches, at worst creates liability. I love single sign-on, for me. But it could be devestating if someone else managed to sign-on as you, with as much information as we have out there already. After I accidently left my purse (with my phone in it) on a city bus, I immediately changed all of my passwords to everything. And no one even stole it, it just found its way to the lost and found. But I had no idea who played with it in the meantime.
vnewman
6/15/2016 5:15:32 PM
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@elizabethv - I hear on that. Paw Patrol is the bane of my existance right now along with Blaze and the Monster Machines. I'm amazed at what my 3-year old can do with my iPad and TV so I have to put as many safeguards in place if I don't want to dip into my retirement fund. The other night at 12:30am I woke up to find the kiddo watching "Ryan's Toy Review" on YouTube on the iPad. He unlocked it, found the bookmark and started watching apparently. So now I have to password protect what is essentially 'his' iPad.
mhhf1ve
6/15/2016 6:22:33 PM
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> "I have to put as many safeguards in place if I don't want to dip into my retirement fund"
On iOS.. I'd so glad I found the Restrictions settings where I can turn off the ability to install/delete apps... phew!
I just wish Apple would make a multi-user version of iOS! :P
Ariella
6/15/2016 9:01:31 PM
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@vnewman never a dull moment when you mix kids and devices. They appear to kno whow to naviagate them by instinct.
mhhf1ve
6/15/2016 9:30:36 PM
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> " I woke up to find the kiddo watching ... YouTube on the iPad.."
Yup. Kids can figure out iPads and Youtube pretty quickly.. It's either impressive how smart they are.. or how good the user interfaces have become.
I once saw an adult try to pinch-zoom a printed MAGAZINE. Not a kid. A full grown adult. That is how ubiquitous touch screens have become.
elizabethv
6/16/2016 8:43:16 AM
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@vnewman - Holy cow does YouTube push my buttons! My son watches the toy reviews and play-doh egg videos like they are his life source. And I can't stand them, they offer no meaningful anything. What I do end up with is an endless barage of new toys to add to the "I want for my birthday" list. YouTube would be my first choice for settings to allow parents to block various videos from being watched without a PIN, and those are all free!
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