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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/19/2016 5:04:39 PM
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Don't fence me in....
> "Nobody buys 'IoT.' They're buying a solution specifically for their vertical."

IoT is a generic buzzword that no one is really buying. Everyone buys products/services that fit their own needs and desired convenience, and IoT is just the umbrella term for the set of solutions that can meet requirements that are connected to the "internet" to make them more useful. 

 

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clrmoney
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12/19/2016 5:14:22 PM
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IOT customers
They said the Internet of things needed more cellular connectivity for customers so they can probably achieve that to keep the customers and what is best for business.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/19/2016 5:28:37 PM
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Re: IOT customers
> "I would love to see a time at some point where all the different networks will be meshing together -- whether it will be satellite, Bluetooth or ZigBee..."

I can't wait for that wireless Utopia to happen, too. But just when you think there's a ubiquitous wireless standard that might unite a lot of devices, a company like Apple introduces another wireless standard that isn't Bluetooth that will probably get more popular and further fracture the wireless standards that already exist.

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afwriter
afwriter
12/19/2016 11:11:01 PM
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Re: Don't fence me in....
I was just explaining that to someone over the weekend.  We may face a situation where the buzz word gets even more diluted before it gets securley defined. 

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dcawrey
dcawrey
12/20/2016 6:13:00 PM
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Re: IOT customers
With this "meshing" of networks he's talking about in the article - isn't that what SDN is supposed to be providing as a technology? 

I ask because I don't hear enough about how IoT and SDN fit together - although it would seem they compliment each other. 

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Ariella
Ariella
12/21/2016 9:56:05 AM
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Re: Don't fence me in....
@afwriter It's a real problem when people use terms to mean different things. And it gets even worse when some people assume that their view is the definitive one, so they don't have to pay attention to what others seem to have in mind when using the same term.

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afwriter
afwriter
12/21/2016 9:48:42 PM
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Re: Don't fence me in....
@Ariella, it can definitely lead to some sitcom-esque situations which are not quite as funny in the real world. 

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JohnBarnes
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12/21/2016 9:53:57 PM
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Re: Don't fence me in....
Ariella,

I think some words are just born too early -- before the concept itself has formed enough to give them any shape or precision. "Data-driven," "devops," and "big data" strike me as being cases of that, along with "IoT."

One result of that historically is that there are historical curiosities in the terminology; we say "spreadsheet" instead of "cellular programming language" because the latter term, coined by the early developers, embraced several other aspects of high-level programming languages, and "app" has largely replaced "program" (and what used to be "programming" is now several different activities).

At a guess, three or four of the major general applications of IoT will gradually get their own standard names as they become the ones used by large numbers of people, and the term IoT will eventually be a quaint bit of the field's past.

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JohnBarnes
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12/21/2016 10:23:55 PM
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Re: IOT customers
mhhf1ve,

I wonder if we're at the end of the age of standardization; isn't it increasingly easy to just translate from standard to standard? Emulators keep getting better, format-to-format conversion faster and more flexible, etc. So maybe the real solution is that we'll get the wireless utopia when everything talks to everything -- not because all the gadgets speak one protocol but because each gadget can instantly start speaking any new protocol it encounters.

Call it reverse Babel. You don't need "Esperanto" if you can download fluent Spanish between "buenas" and "dias."

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Ariella
Ariella
12/22/2016 8:47:55 AM
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Re: Don't fence me in....
@JohnBarnes well there's a book opportunity, exploring the rise and fall of tech terms and how words can become obsolete. I'm not sure IoT will disappear, though. It seems that it gets somewhat qualified by those in the industry who point to different needs for its application in public, private, and industrial settings. In fact, I would say that the failure of some companies' attempt to use their own version of the term -- like IoE -- actually can be taken as an indication of IoT's general acceptance in usage. I think it's also a bit less ambiguous than big data. I once spoke with a professor who declared that big data didn't mean what most people thought it did because of the confusion of the data itself and the analytics. 

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