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Ariella
1/30/2017 1:41:15 PM
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AT&T
< We have 30 million connected devices overall,; the most of any carrier out there, by far.> That does sound like quite a lot. I do wonder how much ahead it is of other carriers. Is it twice as many? Three times? I'm sure that would depend on which carrier we compare it to.
Michelle
1/30/2017 1:47:34 PM
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Good question. I wonder how well it stacks up to Verizon specifically.
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In agreemnet...
Would be a worth while comparison, with Verizon stats.
Poll: The Fate of Smart Cities
Smart cities, from AT&T and elsewhere, are likely in your opinion...
1. ...to thrive in the coming decade.
2. ...to gain some traction, especially in communities with above average median incomes and other inherent advantages.
3. ...to not be a home run, but provide helpful functionality in certain areas, such as traffic control.
4. ...to bog down into a morass of small siloes of "smartness" that are very limited because of technical and other incompatibilities.
Please elaborate on your choice below.
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@Carl:
Given that "All of the above" is not an option, I guess I'm gonna go with 2, then 4, then 3, then maybe 1.
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I would say #3 would be my option.
And the thought behind is - ability to analyze traffic patterns and manage / control adequately would surely yield value into the smart model.
Michelle
1/31/2017 2:11:02 PM
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Re: Poll: The Fate of Smart Cities
I think we'll see a mix of #3 and #4. Implementation will be messy in some places, but others will experience at least some improvement over older methods. We shall see...
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@Michelle:
That is true. A mix is very much possible.
We will have to wait and see.
clrmoney
1/30/2017 8:53:18 PM
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More smart cities in 2017
They have it the smart cities in eight locations and that's great so I say keep going to make things better.
JohnBarnes
1/30/2017 9:44:12 PM
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Googling around for stories about what cities are actually doing ....
... I find lots of stories about remote monitoring and big data, and about mobile apps, but very little about how it's all hooking together. Not sure whether this is because it's still too early (if you're just putting in the tech to monitor water or electricity consumption or garbage hauling, linking them up is pretty hard to do in advance!) or because so far not too many cities or engineers actually have a good handle on what they're going to do (other than "something cool.")
JohnBarnes
1/30/2017 9:46:22 PM
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Re: Googling around for stories about what cities are actually doing ....
For those who want to do that same experiment, my Google search was simply
AT&T AND "smart city" AND X
where X = a city from the list. I tried all 8; results were essentially identical because so far there are not very many stories about specific implementations, and many more about the program in general (which nearly all articles mention all 8 cities).
Re: Googling around for stories about what cities are actually doing ....
Look for Jefferson City, MO, to eventually be making Smart Cities headlines. I met a couple of Jefferson City municipal honchos at a tech conference last year. While neither the conference nor our discussions included talk on Smart Cities, they are definitely very interested in advancing forward technologically from a municipal and county standpoint.
Re: Googling around for stories about what cities are actually doing ....
@JB:
That is interesting and i would say rather disappointing to see same results for all cities.
Not sure, have heard so many good things about Boston being front runner in smart cities initiative.
But will definitely try to look it up.
JohnBarnes
1/31/2017 4:37:30 PM
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Re: Googling around for stories about what cities are actually doing ....
Ms Akkineni, I think it just indicates how early in the day it really is. All cities are pretty similar because they are all at the same point in the cycle: getting ready to start.
Re: Googling around for stories about what cities are actually doing ....
@JB:
That appears to be the reality. This makes me think there is still a long way to go..
Re: Googling around for stories about what cities are actually doing ....
@JohnBarnes: Eventually, the Smart Cities issue is going to become a big data/data science problem. But for now, the area is still quite nascent--despite all of the advancements.
JohnBarnes
1/31/2017 8:53:17 PM
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Re: Googling around for stories about what cities are actually doing ....
Joe,
Well, that's a place where tech deployment is different from evolution; engineers can solve the half-a-wing problem without having to figure out a way to market a tenth of a wing, then an eighth, then a quarter, then half, then seven-eighths, all the time adapting things for purposes other than the original, the way evolution is forced to proceed. Engineers can say "we've got measurements on lift to drag ratio for wings and on power output to weight ratio for engines and on propeller efficiency, and we can already see that there needs to be something to keep it from flipping over, and something else to allow it to steer ... " and get to an airplane from that. But Smart Cities seems like such a big, messy, poorly specified problem that I think we'll probably fall back on market evolution to get there, if indeed we ever do.
Re: Googling around for stories about what cities are actually doing ....
@JB:
As always,appreciate detailed analysis.
Completely inline with your thoughts shared about how tech deployment and evolution are two different things.
JohnBarnes
2/28/2017 8:36:38 PM
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Re: Googling around for stories about what cities are actually doing ....
Ms. Akkineni,
Except when they're not! There are some technological developments that look almost exactly like biological evolution, some that look like a single designing mind, some that look like game theory exercises ... I wonder if we'll ever get any real handle on how tech develops, or if it will always be a set of eternal surprises.
Re: Googling around for stories about what cities are actually doing ....
@JB:
I hear your point. I believe one reason could be because the change is occuring very quick. And everyone is rushing to be part of the change to get to the next change and so forth. Along the way they are losing track and hence not getting good handle at it.
JohnBarnes
3/26/2017 11:22:05 PM
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Re: Googling around for stories about what cities are actually doing ....
Ms. Akkineni
Well, and not just that the pace is very quick now, but that the whole idea of technology-driven change is very new -- it had been going on for about 150 years before anyone began to take note of it, only around 1900. That's an eyeblink in human cultural development. I would bet that most of the world still expects subconsciously that their grandchildren will live about like they do now -- even when their own lives are very different from their grandparents'.
mpouraryan
3/27/2017 2:51:12 PM
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Re: Googling around for stories about what cities are actually doing ....
What you note @JohnBarnes is applicable to the almost 80% of the World right now that does not seem to have the wonders of Technology "trickle down to..". We have to watch India, though, especially with what it is trying to do to with Digital India--especially now that the Indian Prime Minister is in even a stronger position due to the recent elections. As India goes in Tech...so goes the World:
http://www.ndtv.com/cheat-sheet/five-points-pm-narendra-modi-made-on-digital-india-777199
dlr5288
3/31/2017 1:02:08 PM
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Re: Googling around for stories about what cities are actually doing ....
Very good points! I agree I think if India proceeds in the direction hat they're heading in technology, it will most definitely help other countries move forward.
mpouraryan
4/1/2017 11:55:54 AM
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Re: Googling around for stories about what cities are actually doing ....
As we look to April & Q2, it is not just India but China as well--although not necessarily within the scope of our deliberations here, Clean Energy--and I would argue humbly that adoption of clean energy and commitment to it is at the heart of the evolution of Smart Cities--as I look forward to our deliberations in this endeavor.
dlr5288
4/24/2017 12:43:47 PM
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Re: Googling around for stories about what cities are actually doing ....
Very true and I agree. I think moving forward with smart cities, clean energy is definitely crucial and will make a huge difference whether people adapt well to smart cities or not.
mpouraryan
4/24/2017 1:43:13 PM
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Re: Googling around for stories about what cities are actually doing ....
One thing I have tried to do is to hook up with this company Arcadia Power that helps promote Wind Energy--check them out--another small way to help create smart cities..and be transformational...as I leave you all w/this to contemplate:
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dlr5288
4/28/2017 12:32:52 PM
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Re: Googling around for stories about what cities are actually doing ....
Ahh thank you for that! Yeah I think to create energy in these new smart cities is going to be a huge task, but it can definitely be done!
Re: Googling around for stories about what cities are actually doing ....
@JB:
Good information about background. You are right about the expectations.
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