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clrmoney
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2/4/2017 12:08:15 AM
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Opendaylight 2017 plans
I like how they talked about machine learning for their second projects and carbon etc. So we will see what else they are doing as time goes on.

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batye
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2/4/2017 11:27:31 PM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
@clrmoney how I see it we are living in interesting times and technology changing our life... for me machine learning is a future now... - how I see it...

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dlr5288
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2/28/2017 8:38:04 PM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
I agree I think it is the future for now. With technology always advancing and moving in different directions all the time however, we never know what'll be the next "future".

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batye
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3/2/2017 1:15:16 AM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
@dlr5288 yes as no one do know for a fact what future will hold... but it life this way it more interesting and it a challenge.... as you never know it :) not easy or simple but it life... 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
3/30/2017 11:06:02 AM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
Definitely keeps things more interesting! That's why technology captures many people's interest because it's forever changing.

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batye
batye
4/2/2017 3:28:07 PM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
@dlr5288 I see technology as a tool and constant changer towards a better life and better future... 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
4/27/2017 2:16:25 PM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
Exactly! And I can't wait to see where it'll be in the next ten years or so and remember where we were with technology today.

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batye
batye
5/2/2017 4:30:12 AM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
@dlr5288 thank you : ) on my end I love old technology and try to hold on to it... just few days ago I got rid of my old three printers from 1999 as wife say it me or them.... 

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dlr5288
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5/30/2017 3:14:21 PM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
Oh really?! Yeah that's old, but I guess if it works fine then why get rid out it?

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batye
batye
6/4/2017 8:00:15 PM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
@dlr5288 yes, slowly I'm getting rid of very old technology... but I do have problem of letting it go...

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mpouraryan
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6/4/2017 8:55:01 PM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
We have to not be "taken in" by the advent of every single bit of technology that is thrown our way.   I, for instance, have found uses for old iPhone3's and old iPad's in my portfolio that has saved me considerable dollars.    Yes we have to eventually embrace new technology...but I remind you all that the first edition of Kindle was at $ 500...now it is at $40 (and a lot of powerful)..as I won't necessarily be taken in by all the various versions of "Echo"...it is interestin times we do live in :) :) 

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batye
batye
6/4/2017 9:16:56 PM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
@mpouraryan call me crazy but for me older techology seems better build solid quality - how I see see it ... heavy and stronger :) 

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mpouraryan
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6/4/2017 9:24:41 PM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
Tha't snot been crazy....it is being realistic :) 

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batye
batye
6/4/2017 9:45:09 PM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
@mpouraryan - thanks, but old technology do things slowly :) - like printer takes 60 sec. while new one takes only 10 sec to print the page...

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
6/5/2017 1:41:09 AM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
Thanks for the thoughts @bayte--since you mentioned printing--as I am sure you agree, the need to print has to be "less and less"--look at, for instance, how printing has evoled (including 3D Printing) as the cost continues to come down--and how companies like HP have adapted with their subscription models that is beneficial for all--another example of trasnformation we're witness to.

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batye
batye
6/5/2017 1:51:52 AM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
@mpouraryan yes I could not agree more... I do see the same trend prices for techology keep going down each six months...

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mpouraryan
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6/5/2017 1:52:42 AM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
It is in the end about value creation--which is at the heart of what all the key vendors are trying to do.    

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batye
batye
6/5/2017 2:01:27 AM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
@mpouraryan yes, you are right, but it not an easy or simple process...

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mpouraryan
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6/5/2017 2:05:42 AM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
I would argue, though, (as we discussed late last month) that those who win will e able to make sure that it is simple for the end user--whatever the sophisticated back-end will entail. That'll be the transformational element here.

 

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batye
batye
6/5/2017 2:26:37 AM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
@mpouraryan  yes, we did :) but in my books user shall win at the end - how I see it...

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
6/5/2017 2:47:58 AM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
Winning, though, is quite subjective--not objective.    The challenge (and this is more of oa rhetorical thought) is to make them all keep coming back again and again--Apple, for instance, has an event planned later on today I believe--I wonder what they've got up their sleeve!!!

 

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
6/5/2017 2:47:58 AM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
Winning, though, is quite subjective--not objective.    The challenge (and this is more of oa rhetorical thought) is to make them all keep coming back again and again--Apple, for instance, has an event planned later on today I believe--I wonder what they've got up their sleeve!!!

 

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batye
batye
6/5/2017 2:54:14 AM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
@mpouraryan I would say with Apple consumers always get at loss  as Apple always wins one way or other....

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
6/5/2017 2:55:57 AM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
I find what you noted kind of astonishing especially as I view Apple products as being quite user friendly and nnovative-I truly enjoy my iPhone and the flexiblity I have with the images I produce, how I manage social curations for the company I work for, The Daily Outsider and other projects--it is a working virtual office!!! 

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batye
batye
6/5/2017 3:01:20 AM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
@mpouraryan  yes Apple products is easy to use but they cost just too much... too much in my books...  but to each his own... plus do not let me started on itunes limitations and Apple control....

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mpouraryan
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6/5/2017 3:06:57 AM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
There is no question there are alterantives to Apple Products--and Apple has worked to make things "seamless" to adopt--Price is a challenge no doubt.   One does not necessairly need to adapt the latest--right?  that's the mplicit message I tried to convey.

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batye
batye
6/5/2017 3:09:52 AM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
@mpouraryan  yes you are 100% right I could not agree more....

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
6/5/2017 12:55:22 PM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
..and to your point, I am seeing reports that Apple is about to roll out a new SIRI-Powered Speaker at the Developer Conference going on right now....I have not assessed it yet...will probably do a column on it for the Daily Outsider Visions' property later on in the week once dust settles!!

Onward 2 the new week :) 

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batye
batye
6/5/2017 1:13:33 PM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
@mpouraryan yes, it interesting the way Apple bring constantly something new to the market...

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
6/5/2017 1:52:19 PM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
..I am seeing updates and one interesting devleopment--a VR Demo created on the new iMACS and as there is a new MACOS with free updates.    Never a dull moment....

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batye
batye
6/5/2017 1:53:32 PM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
@mpouraryan yes, in my books it getting very very interesting 

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
6/5/2017 2:27:41 PM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
...hopefully your definition of "interesting" @bayte includes the rollout of iOs11...:) :) 

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batye
batye
6/5/2017 2:39:51 PM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
@mpouraryan yes, including new iOS 11 :) 

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
6/5/2017 2:43:42 PM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
I hope you have time to share some further insights on what you might consider "exciting" & "interesting" as others hope as well.....

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batye
batye
7/3/2017 2:19:06 AM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
@mpouraryan thank you, in my mind I hope Apple create something simular to give Nintendo run for it money and to compete with new Super Nes Mini in September/October :) 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
6/28/2017 12:50:09 PM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
Haha I get it! It definitely can be difficult. I'm the opposite though. I usually get rid of old technology fairly quickly when something new emerges.

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batye
batye
7/3/2017 2:20:31 AM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
@dlr5288 yes and no as new technology not always proven in the field... and sometimes plague by problems... just simple do not work... as I see it in IT field...

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dlr5288
dlr5288
7/31/2017 4:55:20 AM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
I agree that the newest doesn't always mean the best! I'm just one of those people that's always wants the new thing.

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batye
batye
8/4/2017 10:29:30 AM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
@dlr5288  as long as you could afford it I would say - why not but to each his own... how I see it :) 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
8/30/2017 11:49:01 AM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
Yeah some of the things that come out are way too expensive. And sometimes don't work as well....

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batye
batye
9/3/2017 6:39:49 PM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
@dlr5288  yes as many Co. try to jump on nintendo mini classic hype creating expensive clones of old and new gaming systems - but fail to deliver good working systems... and it kills the hype or retro-game -revival... at the end consumers do not buy as they do not want risking the money for fancy looking door stoppers... sad reality... 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
9/28/2017 11:42:15 AM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
True. Many consumers definitely won't risk spending more money just to be disappointed again..

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batye
batye
10/2/2017 4:40:05 AM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
@dlr5288 plus economy is not in recovery yet and people thinking about day after and do not want to spend/risk it too much the way I see it... 

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dlr5288
dlr5288
10/30/2017 2:21:17 PM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
Exactly. I think many people would rather wait it out and see.

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dcawrey
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2/5/2017 3:31:43 PM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
One of the biggest differentiators I think a big open project like this can accomplish is machine learning. A lot of companies talk about doing this, but it's going to take a ton of effort to really get anywhere. 

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batye
batye
2/5/2017 11:25:13 PM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
@dcawrey  I trust you are right as right now there is too much hype... but when it will come to life... ??? when??? or when we will see it...

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JohnBarnes
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2/25/2017 4:24:55 PM
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Re: Opendaylight 2017 plans
dcawrey,

One advantage OpenDaylight has is that their core area is SDN, which means they have more ways to create/access the very heavy bandwidth and processing demands that machine learning makes. It's sort of a contemporary version of the advantage Motorola had with being inside a car company -- a huge customer base already committed to them , and being able to have specifications and supporting hardware modified to accomodate any limitation in their own designs and capabilities.

And aside from being able to configure to have enough room, speed, and data access for machine learning, networking problems are pretty much the quintessential machine learning problem -- data, relationships, and potential hypotheses are all either numeric-continuous or finite-discrete, and there's practically no human-emotional component or investment in any particular solution. A very good fit indeed!

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Kultrol
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2/6/2017 10:22:40 AM
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I like how they talked about machine learning for their second projects and carbon etc. So we will see what else they are doing as time goes on.

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Adi
Adi
2/7/2017 7:38:54 AM
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Coordination and industry awareness
The big positive we're seeing now in the telecom world across digital transformation efforts is that bodies are aware of other efforts in the spaces next to them. There's greater awareness and more interaction with what's going on in anciallary areas, and a desire to work together so that the direction of development takes a broader eco-system of innovation into account. Interoperability is a pretty big deal, so getting everyone into a big tent will hopefully accelerate innovation cycles and reduce time to market.

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JohnBarnes
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2/25/2017 4:28:16 PM
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Re: Coordination and industry awareness
Adi,

Yes, absolutely. Also, this competitive cooperation, or cooperative competition, or whatever you want to call it, demands an egolessness and sense of priority that are likely to spill over into every other aspect of the business; the young SDNfolk of today are very likely to rise up to become the C-suite people of 2040, deservedly. And all of business will be better for it.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
2/25/2017 4:15:36 PM
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The tipping point to serious
"More than half of the new projects in Boron came from user organizations. To me, that was a really critical data point. To me, that was the real mark of this being real, and that it was meaningful to people when they want to put their own resources and mark on the platform."

That pretty much defines the difference between tentative, not-fully-committed positions --  "monitoring to see if there's anything there" or "dabbling in case we need expertise quickly in this" -- and committed, invested, serious positions -- "We plan for this to be here and keep developing so we're developing into it." She's absolutely right, that marks a tipping point.

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Itsmeshawn22
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2/28/2017 7:13:52 PM
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OpenDaylight's Caywood Discusses 2017 Roadmap
i really enjoyed reading this article because its well written and explained. I agree with the opendaylights caywood and the 2017 road map will be great and succusful. i really cant wait to see the big plans for 2017 like it says in the article. The SDN will be great and it will take over what they have now.

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batye
batye
3/2/2017 1:16:28 AM
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Re: OpenDaylight's Caywood Discusses 2017 Roadmap
@Itsmeshawn22 yes I could not agree more... but it would be interesting to see - how everything will develops and grow...

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