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batye
batye
3/2/2017 1:12:03 AM
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Re: Dial Up Obsolete
@JohnBarnes in the area where I live you still have dial up but at the same time where is no cell signal as it too rural... sad....

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batye
batye
3/2/2017 1:10:27 AM
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Re: Dial Up Obsolete
@ms.akkineni this days use of technology does require a high speed internet... and dial up just could not do it... could not do it...

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Michelle
Michelle
2/28/2017 9:39:07 PM
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Re: Dial Up Obsolete
@John I wouldn't have guessed that. I assumed affluence would equal ultra broadband wherever available. 

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Michelle
Michelle
2/28/2017 9:37:49 PM
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Re: And yet another advantage
@John I'm questioning everything I know about video delivery... I really don't understand how buffering works. Thank you so much for going into detail like this!

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Michelle
Michelle
2/28/2017 9:34:08 PM
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Re: And yet another advantage
@John We're going to live in 1984 forever, aren't we? As long as there's technology there will be something really terrible about access to it...

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srufolo1
srufolo1
2/28/2017 9:02:29 PM
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Re: And yet another advantage
@JohnBarnes  Oh, thank you for this explanation of how buffering is a hack point. Now I can actually understand it! Also, I am one of those hugely visual people who appreciate charts.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
2/28/2017 8:55:42 PM
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Re: And yet another advantage
srufulo1,

Buffering is a hack point because it's a partial download -- there's a sizable chunk of the video in short term memory. If you can snapshoot that buffer (everything is set up to prevent you doing it, but that's just a challenge to anyone trying to hack it, and not necessiarly a hard challenge) enough times while the video is playing, you only need to identify a small number of places to stitch your snapshots together to have a full copy.

Furthermore, there has to be a way of taking things out of the buffer, and that way can be copied and spoofed.

The closer you get to true streaming, the more "stitching" you have to do, because the pieces are smaller, and the less of an extractor there needs to be. At the limit, you'd have to stitch every frame together from fractional pieces and your computer wouldn't be operating on buffer contents at all.

Sort of an analogy: Basically the size of the buffer is the size of the piece of fabric, and the buffer extractor is the thing that marks seams and holds the cloth together. A big buffer needed to smooth things out a few years ago would give you several large complete pieces of the garment and a set of tools for matching them up and sewing and trimming. True streaming would give it to you a thread at a time with no tools to handle it with.

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srufolo1
srufolo1
2/28/2017 8:52:27 PM
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Netflix CEO Make Buffering Obsolete
This is an interesting article from Mobile World Congress 2017 in Barcelona. I wonder what juicy tibits BBC's Stock was trying to get out of Netflix CEO Reed Hastings that he wasn't revealing. Whatever, he was concentrating on this whole buffering thing and the notion that it will become obsolete like dial-up. There are so many things in technology that have disappeared. Does anyone remember CompuServe?

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srufolo1
srufolo1
2/28/2017 8:36:46 PM
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RE: Diablo up
@Steve Stanganelli I don't know who in the world would be using dial-up and what in the world they would be connecting to. I remember when I was at my last job and I was picking up mail from my old AOL account because I was still receiving mail there from places I couldn't change the address, and that signature "You've Got Mail" blurted out in the office. Someone commented, "Oh my God, someone still has AOL!!" Of course, I did not let on that it was I. And having AOL is not half as bad as still having a dial-up modem!

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srufolo1
srufolo1
2/28/2017 8:30:53 PM
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Re: Netlfix CEO
@freehe I wondered the same thing. What does he care where Hastings watched The Crown, as long as he was watching it. I watched The Crown on my laptop, and it was perfectly fine.

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