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Ariella
Ariella
3/8/2017 4:38:03 PM
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Re: Amazon And Netflix Original Content
@mhhf1ve true, though they Disneyfied the Grimm tales that were, well, kind of grim in the original versions, as were other stories they adapted, like "The Little Mermaid," whose heroine did not get a happy ending. But now they are not just poaching what's out there but themselves, remaking the same story over and over. Well, I suppose it can be taken as a positive lesson in recycling. 

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vnewman
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3/8/2017 4:00:22 PM
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True - it's hard to reinvent a good fairy tale.  And Disney has been on the receiving end of the rip-off as well.  Remember Avatar?  The joke is it is basically Pocohontas in space.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
3/8/2017 2:05:55 PM
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Well, Disney is the master of re-making stories, right? Most of Disney's intellectual property wouldn't exist without the Grimm fairy tales or other public domain childhood stories. 

Good artists copy. Great artists (and large corporations) steal.... 

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Ariella
Ariella
3/7/2017 5:18:40 PM
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Re: Amazon And Netflix Original Content
@mhhf1ve I know, the dearth of original ideas is very obvious. And it's not limited to comic book stories or sequels. As I commented to someone some time ago about the upcoming "Beauty and the Beast,"  film, we are now remaking an animated film that was also rendered as theatrical production back into a film featuring people. Sure there are some minor changes in each adaption, but it's basically the same story with the same songs, and, of course, the same theme over and over again. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
3/7/2017 2:46:00 PM
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> "data can't guarantee a hit, but it can point you in the general direction.."

Sure, it reduces the investment risk. And that's why there's been a wave of sequels and prequels.. because there's a formula that can be followed that assures that at least someone will watch it. I even watched some of the Star Trek TNG movies, even though they were mostly just awful. Hope springs eternal... 

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Ariella
Ariella
3/7/2017 2:32:13 PM
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@mhhf1ve sure, there are those things that go into a movie's popularity, too. So data can't guarantee a hit, but it can point you in the general direction of what appeals to audiences.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
3/7/2017 2:28:43 PM
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>"Netflix bases its original programming on big data it collects from its subscribers.."

I wonder how well that really works. There's only so much that data analysis can do to predict what will be a "hit" with viewers. Not every "sequel" is a hit, even it if plays to every factor that "should" attract an audience. The Independence Day sequel was awful (although the original wasn't that good either), and there are countless Batman movies that aren't very good. Look at all the Star Trek failures... It comes down to execution, too!

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
3/7/2017 2:19:00 PM
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Re: Billions and billions.. and the ROI?
> "I didn't happen to see the price Disney paid for Lucasfilm..."

Disney got a great deal on Lucasfilm. $4 billion for (the future of) the Star Wars franchise! They will make it back pretty quickly, if they haven't already.. and then there will be more toys and movies for as long as Disney can keep it going. However, Fox still owns the rights to the first 6 Star Wars films...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2012/10/30/disney-star-wars-lucasfilm/1669739/

http://www.slashfilm.com/20th-century-fox-still-owns-rights-to-first-six-star-wars-films-making-original-box-set-difficult/

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Michelle
Michelle
3/4/2017 9:49:50 PM
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Re: Amazon And Netflix Original Content
@Ariella I think they should. They probably have plenty of data to analyze. They should fix the video playback while they're at it. Amazon video isn't nearly as smooth as Netflix on a lesser connection...

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Michelle
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3/4/2017 9:36:08 PM
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Re: Billions and billions.. and the ROI?
@mhh That's an excellent comparison! I didn't happen to see the price Disney paid for Lucasfilm... 

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