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clrmoney
clrmoney
4/24/2017 10:52:47 AM
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Mobile Usage
As the charts shows we use mobile for a lot of things for different things and in different countries. We'll see how things play out wil there be more mobile usage or not.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
4/24/2017 3:50:07 PM
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Desktop Vs Mobile
there are still more people accessing social networks via the desktop today.


This is absolutely no surprise to me. It is very clear that there is quite some population that is actively using desktop / laptop for social networking. I would think with all smart devices in focus, though laptops are considered more as 'Computers' despite of their mobile nature.

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dcawrey
dcawrey
4/25/2017 12:35:59 PM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
Interesting stats on health here. 

I thought I read somewhere that health applications on smartphones aren't really do what they say they can? In making people healthier. It's just data people don't really actualize. 

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Adi
Adi
4/26/2017 3:43:27 AM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
dcawrey - Not an area I have much insight into, but I would think that smartphone health apps would largely track activities and behaviors. That's going to have a limited impact unless harmful behaviors are changed. It would be interesting if anyone here has any real insight into the topic -- obviously an impportant one.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
4/26/2017 10:30:08 AM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
@Adi:

Yes, majority of health care apps that i am aware of are geared towrads tracking one' s activity, measuring behaviours etc. I would be interested to get more information about any other apps in that domain that could be considered for more significant purposes.

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dlr5288
dlr5288
4/30/2017 4:01:14 PM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
Yes that would be so useful! It would be interesting to see where these apps will head in the future!

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Ariella
Ariella
4/26/2017 8:37:18 AM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
@dcawrey the problem is that there all kinds of health-related apps, but the person still has to act on the information given to increase exercise, make healthier eating choices, etc.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
4/26/2017 10:26:34 AM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
@Areilla:

Good points. These health care apps are mostly informational, measuring an individual actions / exercise levels etc. But as you said any change has to come from the person itslef. I am not very sure if there are apps which would do good job on motivating individuals to go exercise. That would be pretty helpful.

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Ariella
Ariella
4/26/2017 10:31:10 AM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
@ms.H some do try to give some social incentive -- sharing one's achievement with social media connections. That way each good move earns one several virtual pats on the back that some find very validating and motivating. But you still have to at least take the first move of making that run to record it and share it with friends.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
4/26/2017 10:37:08 AM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
@Ariella:

Good Information. Obviously it is not realistic to expect not to do anything at an individual level. May be one day in future we can expect to see all integration with not much intervention.

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freehe
freehe
4/30/2017 7:20:23 PM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
Glad to see this statistics, so many companies make you believe everyone is doing everything on their smartphone.

I know I don't.

"While mobile usage accounts for the majority of time spent on social networks, there are still more people accessing social networks via the desktop today, according to a new report from web analytics company comScore Inc."

 

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freehe
freehe
4/30/2017 7:31:11 PM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
@ms.akkineni, that is a good idea. I nominate you to develop the app.

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Michelle
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4/26/2017 2:30:45 PM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
@Ariella I think you're right. All the tracking probably isn't helping... You must track and do something with the data. If you're not improving in some way it matters very little how much you track.

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Ariella
Ariella
4/26/2017 2:33:56 PM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
@Michelle Yes, for businesses analytics are always supposed to provide *actionable* insight. But if the business does not take the actions recommended by the analytics then they are simply wasting their time and resources in running through all that data. The same applies to people quantifying everything about themselves without actually making necessary changes.

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Michelle
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4/27/2017 1:49:02 PM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
@Ariella I think the issue is with habits. You start a new tracking program without giving any thought to how you'll actually use the data. Planning for data analysis can make a huge difference compared to data tracking alone.

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Ariella
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4/27/2017 2:57:37 PM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
@Michell you're right that habits carry great sway over people.

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freehe
freehe
4/30/2017 7:34:11 PM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
@Ariella, Excellent point. I think the overall theme here is you have to take action. There are some many companies that capture pedabytes of data that is just sitting there. Why waste the resources and act of capturing data if you aren't going to use it. Stop capturing it.

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Ariella
Ariella
5/1/2017 12:37:01 PM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
@freehe they become data hoarders -- the digital equivalent of never throwing out a newspaper or receipt. It's just neater when you can store things in data centers rather than in hard copy format.

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JohnBarnes
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4/30/2017 4:51:19 PM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
Ariella,

One advantage is for a certain personality type: the highly competitive.  At various times in my life I've been in pretty good shape from martial arts, handball, tennis, hare-and-hounds-racing, and parcourse competition (not Parcour, I'm not utterly mad, despite doing hare and hounds). But once you get too old to play effectively, the incentive for exercise kind of collapses. 

There are gradually developing multiplayer shared world games out there (I'm only vaguely aware, I keep meaning to find some and see if there's something I'd like) that will let practically anyone at any level of fitness play competitively; that would get me to exercise!

(Spouse and I have been doodling around with an idea for a pedal-driven ion rocket so that we can virtual-bicycle race from low earth orbit to the moon.)

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Ariella
Ariella
5/1/2017 12:42:44 PM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
@JohnBarnes would you have a corresponding virtual reality scene to match your progress?

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
5/1/2017 2:26:07 PM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
Ariella, Not in this early draft (the physics is tough enough!) but if we ever commercialize it I think we will pretty much have to do that.

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Ariella
Ariella
5/1/2017 2:26:56 PM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
@JohnBarnes yes, it would make it feel more immersive.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
5/1/2017 2:50:44 PM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
Arielle, only problem is that for most of the trip it is a pretty dull thing to be immersed in -- very little relative motion of anything, just the earth getting smaller and moon getting bigger from day to day or week to week.

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Ariella
Ariella
5/1/2017 2:59:29 PM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
@JohnBarnes maybe it can be jazzed up with sunrises, sunsets, meteor showers, etc.

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freehe
freehe
4/30/2017 7:29:50 PM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
@dcawrey, I would agree. It was all just hype. There are so many ways to effectively use the data but it is not being done.

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Adi
Adi
4/26/2017 3:45:37 AM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
ms.akkineni - It does seem that mobile users are considerably more intense, so despite being a minority, they account for more time. But looking at the graphic, it doesn't seem that the difference is that great (in terms of users), and probably closing fast.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
4/26/2017 10:27:58 AM
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Re: Desktop Vs Mobile
@Adi:

Agree with you totally about the intense nature of mobile population, that obviously gets translated into more time.

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Adi
Adi
4/26/2017 10:46:29 AM
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The Maslow Connection
Did anyone find value in the whole "Maslow's hiearchy" relationship they have tried to construct? I'm not sure I understood the point of it. 

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Michelle
Michelle
4/26/2017 2:28:23 PM
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Re: The Maslow Connection
@Adi I see what they were trying to show us, but I don't think they quite hit the mark. It doesn't really work...

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freehe
freehe
4/30/2017 7:32:52 PM
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Re: The Maslow Connection
@Adi, @Michelle, Yes I agree. They definitely missed the mark. It was a good try.

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freehe
freehe
4/30/2017 7:23:33 PM
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Maslow Hierarchy
Wow, great to see they tried to connect it to Maslow's Hierarchy. I learned about it about 8 years ago. However a mobile phone doesn't really address the specific needs mentioned in Maslow's  hierarchy. It was a good try.

A smartphone doesn't adress safety or security needs, love needs or prestige needs.

Maslow Hierarchy is listed here https://simplypsychology.org/maslow.html

Here is the modified version - maybe number 5 is what they were trying to connect with.

1. Biological and Physiological needs - air, food, drink, shelter, warmth, sex, sleep, etc.

2. Safety needs - protection from elements, security, order, law, stability, etc.

3. Love and belongingness needs - friendship, intimacy, trust and acceptance, receiving and giving affection and love. Affiliating, being part of a group (family, friends, work).

4. Esteem needs - self-esteem, achievement, mastery, independence, status, dominance, prestige, managerial responsibility, etc.

5. Cognitive needs - knowledge and understanding, curiosity, exploration, need for meaning and predictability.

6. Aesthetic needs - appreciation and search for beauty, balance, form, etc.

7. Self-Actualization needs - realizing personal potential, self-fulfillment, seeking personal growth and peak experiences.
8. Transcendence needs - helping others to achieve self actualization.
 
 

 

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
5/1/2017 3:02:36 PM
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Re: Maslow Hierarchy
Freehe, Well, in a really dire situation you can use a cellphone battery to start a fire, so that might cover #1&2.

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
5/16/2017 8:18:06 PM
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Re: Maslow Hierarchy
@freehe:

Good briefing on Maslow Hierarchy, Thanks for sharing.

I agree that #5 is what is being highlighed in this context.

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