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clrmoney
5/1/2017 1:56:44 PM User Rank Platinum
Apple Music and HBO Europe
This is great for Apple Music that they are launching the 10 video series and HBO Europe doing drama series show in different countries etc. I know that know of them have a lot more to offer as time goes on.
batye
5/1/2017 2:03:19 PM User Rank Platinum
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@clrmoney yes as Apple fighting for it market share with Apple TV... I do hope at the end we gonna get better shows..
mhhf1ve
5/1/2017 7:10:58 PM User Rank Platinum
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Apple is just testing the waters and making sure it can become its own Disney. I always wondered if Steve Jobs ever regretted selling Pixar to Disney instead of trying to merge it into Apple.... Seems like Pixar might have been a better fit for Apple, but maybe not?
batye
5/1/2017 7:56:25 PM User Rank Platinum
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@mhhf1ve yes, I think you are right, as Apple trying to fight it for it piece of pie and try to see if it get a bigger chank of it :)
Adi
5/2/2017 3:45:45 AM User Rank Author
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mhhf1ve - It's a tough one. You only have to look at what's happening with Time Warner -- used to include a cable operator, spun it off, now might get acquired by a telecom and satellite TV distribution company...so should content and distribution be coupled, or not?
To me, if content distribution is the core of your business, it's probably worth looking at adding content; and similarly if content is the core of your business, then adding distribution probably makes sense. But obviously it gets down to the specifics then -- whether the numbers really make sense and the synergies are present.
Comcast has certianly delivered on its acquisition of NBCU. Brian Roberts is practically going around saying "Cord-cutting? What cord-cutting?"
batye
5/2/2017 4:35:12 AM User Rank Platinum
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@Adi interesting observation it like one part of the Co. trying to sabotadge the other... what they are thinking???
Adi
5/2/2017 4:38:38 AM User Rank Author
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batye - Yes, of course, internal politics are another issue. Cultures don't fit, management styles are different...that's certainly an issue. You have to look not only at the technical and business drivers, but also at corporate culture, when coupling companies. Otherwise you can end up, like you said, with one side trying to sabotage the other.
batye
5/2/2017 4:41:33 AM User Rank Platinum
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@Adi for me it getting a bit scarry as I see the almost the same patter with many Co. including giants like Nintendo... it like people wake one day and forgot how to think:(... I do not know what to say...
Ariella
5/2/2017 12:23:16 PM User Rank Author
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@batye I kno wwhat you mean. For all the visions of a future with technology, I'd guess that Ray Bradbury's in Fahrenheit 451 comes closest. In some ways our present reality is worse because we are not only lulled into an alternate reality by the screens in our homes by the ones we carry with us everywhere.
batye
5/2/2017 4:42:44 PM User Rank Platinum
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@Ariella thank you, for me get very scarry when people forgot to think... it like Germany 1939 circa... it very sad as humanity should strive towards good... and better... not down the road path...
mhhf1ve
5/2/2017 2:25:41 PM User Rank Platinum
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> "Comcast has certianly delivered on its acquisition of NBCU."
Could you elaborate on what you mean by this?
The history of content companies coupled with distribution companies is a bit spurious for looking forward to what these industries should do in the future, I think. The future seems to be leaning toward consolidation of media and distribution, so that distribution networks can try to turn themselves into more exclusive, competitive siloes. With strong copyright (and streaming), I think this move makes sense.
batye
5/2/2017 4:49:18 PM User Rank Platinum
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@mhhf1ve same question on my end I would like to know... also it gonna be interesting how it all will play out at the end...
Ariella
5/2/2017 4:52:15 PM User Rank Author
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@mhhf1ve speaking of siloes, I saw today that China is building its own Wikipedia. "Instead of adopting the free community collaboration methodology used by Wikipedia to collect and curate content on its website, the Chinese government is maintaining complete control over the content" see https://thetechportal.com/2017/05/02/china-building-own-curated-wikipedia/
mhhf1ve
5/2/2017 6:19:52 PM User Rank Platinum
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A Chinese-govt-controlled fork of Wikipedia sounds like a disaster that will never gain traction. Who will volunteer to maintain it? Only paid Chinese editors. Then it becomes basically a free version of Encyclopedia Britannica -- and the business model for that doesn't look very good.
Ariella
5/2/2017 9:18:42 PM User Rank Author
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@mhhf1ve I don't think business type models are what the government had in mind for this. I'd think it is more a matter of setting up access to information that is government controlled and sanctioned. I believe the country blocks access to the standard Wikipedia.
afwriter
5/3/2017 12:31:19 AM User Rank Platinum
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Yeah, nothing bad can come from an information source run by the government. Haha.
batye
5/3/2017 1:33:13 AM User Rank Platinum
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@afwriter I would say propaganda wars and cyber wars go this days hand in hand...
batye
5/3/2017 1:35:36 AM User Rank Platinum
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@mhhf1ve my question would be at the end what we gonna see??? hope not something simular to North Korea Intranet...
mhhf1ve
5/2/2017 6:26:40 PM User Rank Platinum
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> "speaking of siloes, I saw today that China is building its own Wikipedia.."
Having quickly read the link you provided, it sounds a lot like the EU project to create a European-version of Google.. that went nowhere.
https://web.archive.org/web/20060118044012/http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10868612/
Apparently, it ended in late 2013.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaero#End
batye
5/3/2017 1:37:41 AM User Rank Platinum
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@mhhf1ve interesting to know, thanks for sharing... as sometime project just end up in limbo... life in IT :)
mpouraryan
5/2/2017 11:37:22 PM User Rank Platinum
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Since you all brought up China, One of my daily must reads as part of my responsibilities at the Daily Outsider is China Daily--it provides good insights on official government thinking on things like South China Sea/etc--(which we release periodically to our Twitter Channel as part of our daily social media curation) and the analysis is actually reasonably well laid-out. I don't, though, put much stock in things like Wikipedia--even the Chinese version--who knows what happens and what is noted? What is interesting, though, is what's happening at the forefront of AI in terms of "sorting out" all that is fake--now that's fascinating to reflect upon nd be witness to...
Ariella
5/3/2017 9:02:22 AM User Rank Author
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@mpouraryan yes, though people have to be somewhat cautious about accpeting AI as completely reliable. Given that all these things are programmed by humans, they can internalize human biases, something I wrote about elsewhere.
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Although your view is commendable and welcome, it seems to be going against the grain as all the leading luminaries seem to think otherwise.
Ariella
5/3/2017 8:39:45 PM User Rank Author
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@mpouraryan See https://thenextweb.com/artificial-intelligence/2017/03/22/artificial-intelligence-is-quickly-becoming-as-biased-as-we-are/#.tnw_yfBen1zs and http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/04/even-artificial-intelligence-can-acquire-biases-against-race-and-gender
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Thanks for the links--What you underscored in your links is what I have lamented--the fact that AI is growing to be "and maybe" supplant humans. We have to continue to be concerned and vigliant.
Adi
5/3/2017 3:00:48 AM User Rank Author
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mhhf1ve - Comcast's performance is pretty impressive-- at the moment, anyway. The company is actually growing video subscribers in an era of cord-cutting, it's NBCU division revenue is up by double digits and it's broadband subscriber growth is certainly robust. More on this in this LR article: Comcast Reaches for Xfinity & Beyond
batye
5/3/2017 4:02:50 AM User Rank Platinum
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@Adi thanks for the link very interesting reading... I think we gonna see Paradigm shift at the end... as everyone trying to save...
mhhf1ve
5/3/2017 4:19:29 PM User Rank Platinum
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> "Comcast's performance is pretty impressive"
I see what you mean now. Thanks for the link. That's really interesting, and I wonder if the future looks brighter for Comcast now that the regulatory restrictions are going to be loosened (and Comcast's voluntary restrictions for NBC go away soon, too).
batye
5/5/2017 1:31:33 AM User Rank Platinum
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@mhhf1ve I could not agree more I think Comcast will end up a winner or at the least one of the top players , the way thing happening...
Ariella
5/4/2017 5:41:16 PM User Rank Author
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@Adi it seems to me that everyone is becoming a content provider and working the ad revenue angle. The latest is Snap TV. The WSJ today reported on that https://www.wsj.com/articles/media-companies-line-up-to-make-shows-for-snap-tv-1493890205:
Over the past several months, Snap has signed original show deals with NBCUniversal, Turner, A+E Networks, Discovery, BBC, ABC, ESPN, Vice Media, Vertical Networks, the NFL and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc. It is also in discussions with CBS and Fox, according to people familiar with the matter. On Thursday, Snap plans to unveil another show deal with Food Network-owner Scripps Networks Interactive , SNI 2.63% which will produce offshoots of existing TV hits like "House Hunters" and "Chopped."
Snapchat hopes to have two to three new episodes of original shows airing each day by the end of the year in the "Stories" section of the app, which displays collections of snaps from friends, as well as stories from media outlets. The shows will be three to five minutes long.
batye
5/5/2017 1:28:24 AM User Rank Platinum
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@Ariella thanks for the link interesting to know - how I see it everyone trying to get on board and grab piece of it revenue as fast as possible...
Ariella
5/5/2017 8:44:43 AM User Rank Author
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@batye that's certainly the way it looks.
vnewman
5/5/2017 1:39:59 PM User Rank Platinum
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@Ariella - SNP really needs that revenue growth to justify their valuation. The networks win as well by getting in front of a population that basically ignores them.
The other cool thing is Snapchat's detailed viewer data lets them know the exact second viewers tap out of their show, so they can (hopefully) improve them!
Ariella
5/5/2017 1:49:51 PM User Rank Author
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@vnewman or know at what point to place the ads!
afwriter
5/3/2017 12:34:14 AM User Rank Platinum
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I feel like Apple is coming to the game pretty late here and would have to produce some pretty interesting television to compete with the big guns.
mhhf1ve
5/3/2017 1:15:07 AM User Rank Platinum
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I don't think it matters how "late" Apple is to creating its own original programming for video streaming. Good content will win regardless of when it's made. Pixar was "late" to animation (ok, not digital animation) but the key is storytelling. Dreamworks could have been a flop if it hadn't started to be more selective with its stories.
batye
5/3/2017 1:30:24 AM User Rank Platinum
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@mhhf1ve I see your point, but it all depends how consumers react to it... as sometimes bzz dies... and to create new bzz/fab wave it takes time... how I see it..
batye
5/3/2017 1:21:06 AM User Rank Platinum
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@afwriter yes I see the same pattern with Apple it seems like Apple smartening up trying to improve programming...
batye
5/6/2017 1:26:10 AM User Rank Platinum
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@Ariella I do hope at the end we will get better shows and better quality of service...
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