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vnewman
vnewman
5/30/2017 1:39:33 PM
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Re: Friends
@JohnBarnes - Exactly!  I made a similar point not that long ago in another column.  Without a TV, what would people gather around?  A fireplace maybe, but it depends where you live in the country and you can only stare at a fire for so long.  I'd bet if you take out the TV entirely and put a circle of chairs together in a room, you'd see everyone in the house sitting in those chairs watching their own personal devices and not interacting much at all.

You are on the money with thinking this kind of behavior (having something to watch/listen/passively do together as a group experience) has been ingrained into our collective unconscious.  

 

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vnewman
vnewman
5/30/2017 2:21:55 PM
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Re: Friends
Let's not forget the affordability factor - smartphones are (mostly) an expensive endeavor and there are some segments of the population who simply cannot afford it.  So what do you do for entertainment then?  You have a TV.

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Michelle
Michelle
5/30/2017 9:44:08 PM
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Re: Friends
@dc I like to think we'll see some data from Pew in the near future. We're all wondering what everyone else does while watching TV.

(I'm reading and typing on a laptop while the TV is on)

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
5/30/2017 10:03:46 PM
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Re: Friends
I actually "watch" TV only when pressured into it by family, so typically while I am on a couch where a TV is on, I'm reading articles or books on my smartphone.  (I often explain this to family as 'if you're going to make me sit in the room with a television at least let me have something interesting.')

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
5/30/2017 10:05:45 PM
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Re: Friends
vnewman,

As another data point, I can watch a fire a great deal longer than I can watch a television. For one thing it's the perfect thing to watch while listening to a story.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
5/30/2017 10:10:31 PM
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Re: US Smartphone Penetration Hits 80%, but Still Lags TV
Mike Pouraryan,

I don't know if I really see any scary downside to letting people control what comes at them through their tv screens more and more. The whole thing reminds of Gregory Bateson's illustration that if you are studying someone cutting down a tree, you are looking at a dialogue between the person, the tree, the cut in the tree, the axe, etc. and the whole "mental" system extends well beyond the boundaries of the skull. Similarly, a really interactive mass communication system might come to resemble mass telepathy.

Nothing to worry about!  Just reassure yourself watching Forbidden Planet!

(..... monsters from the id ....)

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Michelle
Michelle
5/30/2017 10:32:24 PM
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Re: Friends
@John it's good you join the rest of the group, even if you don't bother with the TV. At my house, someone is almost always reading something while sitting in the living room with the TV on. We watch some things together, but not everyone has the same interests.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
5/31/2017 12:54:09 AM
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Re: Friends
@vnewman: Well, remember, before TV, the radio (those big, funiture-like jobbies) used to be the living-room gathering point.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
5/31/2017 12:56:32 AM
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Re: Friends
@dcawrey: There have been a lot of studies over the past few years demonstrating that people like to multi-screen -- use a device while viewing television.

For a while, advertisers tried to leverage this with television show-specific apps to use while watching a particular program.  Nowadays, they've gone back to relying on branded hashtags and hoping for the best.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
5/31/2017 12:58:27 AM
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Re: Friends
@afwriter: Man, you've got me pining for an apartment I missed out on many years ago.  It came furnished and there were TVs in every room (bathroom included).  I would have rented it but the landlord took it off the market.  I wound up having to search for another couple of months -- and settle for a place not nearly as nice.

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