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clrmoney
clrmoney
12/5/2016 10:54:24 AM
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Virtual not clear enough foy you
I don't know what they don't understand because almost eveything is now doing virtual maybe it's just that the older generation is used to in person and face to face things.

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afwriter
afwriter
12/5/2016 10:58:58 AM
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Future or Fad?
There is a nagging part of me that still feels like VR and 360 video will pass llike other fads, but I also think that like the article states, the future is unclear.  These medias will walk a tightrope until one of two entities can show a "need" for them instead of just an interest in a new technology. 

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batye
batye
12/5/2016 4:18:47 PM
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Re: Virtual not clear enough foy you
@clrmoney  same in Canada older generation trying to avoid dealing with technology... even ATM's in the banks... -what I see it :)

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batye
batye
12/5/2016 4:20:18 PM
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Re: Future or Fad?
@afwriter as with any technology there is always hype and show... but after dust settles and we will see if consumers buy into it or not... only then we will know...

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
12/7/2016 10:39:50 PM
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They're bucking 400 years of visual performance history, that's why.
Beginning with the Teatro Farnese (completed in 1618) and ever since, European performance has been grounded in controlling the spectator's point of view --

•proscenium arches, which made all the audience look atthe show from one side (instead of surrounding a thrust stage or a center playing area)

•painted perspective scenery, which only looked right if you were in a fairly small (and expensive) part of the house

•controlled lighting so that you could light only the parts you wanted the audience to watch

•development of the job of  the director's bag of tricks usually called mise-en-scene, to guide the audience to look where they were supposed to

and of course finally

•the motion picture camera, so that you have no option of seeing anything outside that point of view.

aided and abetted by

•the whole huge suite of editing tools and the tricks that start with Porter, Eisenstein, etc. and continue down to the present day.

Controlling viewpoint has been what narrative performance was all about since Shakespeare was barely cold in his grave. The fundamental ideology is that of the old Outer Limits television series:

There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image; make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: there is nothing wrong with your television set. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to the outer limits.

An esthetic for 360 degree VR is going to have to scrap or drastically reintepret the whole notion of that control.  Suddenly, as for Aeschylus or Shakespeare, or in the medieval mystery plays, we make an image and the audience looks where it damned well pleases. Undoing 400 years of an esthetic is not going to happen overnight!

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Michelle
Michelle
12/8/2016 2:28:34 PM
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Re: Future or Fad?
@afwriter I think they'll soon be considered a fad, then fade into the distance. I wasn't sure about early smartphones so I'm probably very wrong

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srufolo1
srufolo1
12/8/2016 4:37:58 PM
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Virtual Video
Can't understand what the apprehension would be concerning virtual video. I think it has a lot of merit. Using it at an event and keeping your audience engaged rather than slumping into a coma could be one bright spot. It could be maybe more dollars must be spent on it. Money is always an issue.

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srufolo1
srufolo1
12/8/2016 4:42:15 PM
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Visual Performance History
@johnbarnes Your historic approach to the way an audience views things and comparing it to virtual video of today is truly enlightening and informative. It made me want to learn more about theatre way back then.

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
12/8/2016 9:27:09 PM
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Re: Visual Performance History
All those years teaching theatre history and I finally found someone who didn't respond with "But why do I need to know this to play a rookie cop?"

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dlr5288
dlr5288
12/30/2016 2:04:08 PM
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Re: Virtual Video
Yes true, money is a huge factor. But I agree with what you said that it would be worth it! Being able to keep a big audience attention instead of them sitting there bored...

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