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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
7/6/2017 3:10:28 PM
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Re: Who has liability for the mistakes of AI?
@Ariella, yes, and some companies are even pre-emptively accepting the liability under certain conditions.

http://jalopnik.com/mercedes-google-volvo-to-accept-liability-when-their-1735170893

But what happens if a hacker gets involved and the manufacturer and the driver are both not at fault? If you can't locate the hacker... I guess it's too bad for the victims.

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Ariella
Ariella
7/6/2017 2:01:26 PM
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Re: Who has liability for the mistakes of AI?
@mhhf1ve I should think it would work like other machines involved in harming people. If the person operating the machine is at fault -- like a drunk driver who hits someone with a car -- then the liability falls on him/her. If, however, it can be proven that the driver did nothing wrong but could not stop due to faulty brakes, the manufacturer would be liable.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
7/6/2017 1:47:02 PM
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Who has liability for the mistakes of AI?
I'm curious how the legal penalties for AI mistakes might play out. How is really going to be liable for AI disasters in the future? Will it be the company that sold the AI? The person who bought and used it? 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
7/6/2017 1:44:50 PM
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Re: Everybody
> "a human behind the wheel that's "supposed" to be able to take over in the event of an emergency, just isn't good enough in my mind."

Google found out exactly that humans aren't a reliable backup for an erratic autonomous driving program. Humans get bored when 99% of the time the AI is doing okay, and then they can't react fast enough when the 1% of the time when the AI is headed for a disaster. Google's autonomous driving project proposed a car without a steering wheel to emphasize that humans can't be a co-pilot. 

 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
7/6/2017 1:40:21 PM
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Re: Everybody
> "..computers having too much control scares me a bit."

Hmm. Well, I suppose it depends on what you trust more -- a human or the AI that a human (or humans) made. Everyone (and everything) can make mistakes. But the only real solution is to make systems that have built in limits to their impact. So.. Regulate everything so that banks aren't too big to fail, industries aren't monopolistic, etc, etc.... 

Having checks and balances on everything might provide some measure of safety, but getting regulations in place that would literally dismantle anything that became too big to fail -- might be very difficult to achieve.

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elizabethv
elizabethv
7/6/2017 8:52:57 AM
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Re: Everybody
@dcawrey - if driverless cars scare me - driverless trucks might be enough to keep me off the roads completely. I just feel like there were need to be some kind of failsafe. And a human behind the wheel that's "supposed" to be able to take over in the event of an emergency, just isn't good enough in my mind. 

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elizabethv
elizabethv
7/6/2017 8:51:25 AM
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Re: Everybody

@mhhf1ve - Honestly, computers having too much control scares me a bit. I think we already have a problem in this country with people relying too heavily on the informaiton behind a screen. And while I get technology is a powerful force, it isn't infallible. I just think of the guy who had "hands free" set in his Tesla and was decapitated by a semi truck. 

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batye
batye
7/5/2017 5:34:09 PM
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Re: Everybody
@mhhf1ve interesting point - I would say sometimes basic way bring more results - how I see it... 

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batye
batye
7/5/2017 5:32:14 PM
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Re: Everybody
@mhhf1ve I see your point, it does make sense... thanks for the link interesting reading... for me security - never ends or stops :) 

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dcawrey
dcawrey
7/5/2017 5:01:45 PM
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Re: Everybody
@elizabethv I think driverless tech is leading the way on this. 

Think of the truck drivers that are working with these logistical systems. It is a great example of how this future is going to look. 

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