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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/7/2017 11:23:03 PM
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Re: Smart console wars
It would be funny if the battle between Google and Amazon resulted in Apple or Roku gaining a dominant market position. Or allowing some startup from China to beat them all somehow.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
12/7/2017 8:32:52 PM
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Re: Smart console wars
It is in the end about everything being seamelss, isn't it?   It is still "there" though in many ways because we still have to go thru a lot of "steps" for instance if we want to go anywhere out of either the "Google" or "amazon" ecosystem unless one, for instance, has a Home or an Echo device to talk things thru--maybe I am continuing to expect too much.   

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batye
batye
12/7/2017 3:39:54 AM
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Re: Smart console wars
@afwriter I hope so... but for now the way thing look up they gonna keep fighting... 

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batye
batye
12/7/2017 3:37:20 AM
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Re: And replacement will take care of the rest
@mhhf1ve I could not agree more I think also the same way something will pop up on the market one day... 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/7/2017 1:08:23 AM
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Re: Smart console wars
Well, not exactly. Amazon is forking Android and creating a direct competitor to Google Play. So it's not quite symbiotic for Google. Google is not really getting much in return for developing Andtoid and having Amazon not play by Android's rules.

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afwriter
afwriter
12/7/2017 12:50:41 AM
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Re: Smart console wars
I just read about this in the news. I thought it was weird that I couldn't find the Chromecast on Amazon when I was shopping for it. They need to get it together and realize that they have a near symbiotic relationship. 

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afwriter
afwriter
12/7/2017 12:46:38 AM
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Re: And replacement will take care of the rest
I'm with you 100% on this. I think the technology is there or nearly there, the problem is not just the projector, it is that no matter how small the projector gets the Ultra 4K player is going to stay the same size and HDMI cables only go so far. Of course, you can mount that stuff too, but it becomes an overhead space issue. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/6/2017 7:05:47 PM
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Re: Smart console wars
Well, there is a fine balancing act to institute regulations without stifling innovation and economic advances. The EU tends to regulate more heavily than the US, but some would argue that the EU regulatory environment is what holds it back from being as innovative as the US is. One could also argue that the Chinese regulatory environment might be even less strict in some sense than the US (eg. allowing for almost any kind of stem cell research without the strict ethical considerations other nations have adopted), and we might see other nations jump ahead if they offer an "anything goes" environment. Such predictions are the premise of science fiction books like Artemis in which the space rocketry industry is dominated by an African nation that doesn't regulate the space industry at all (thereby becoming the dominant location for rockets to launch from). 

https://nerdist.com/andy-weir-artemis-book-details-cover-the-martian-movie-exclusive/

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JohnBarnes
JohnBarnes
12/6/2017 5:58:36 PM
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Re: Smart console wars
mhhf1ve,

I think it has more to do with whether the regulating bodies (and nations) have the will to do it. Laws against anti-competitive practices like predatory pricing and exclusionary contracts are more than a century old. The thing is that anti-competition is itself such an easily concealed process that to work, regulations have to allow -- or demand --  massive intrusion by regulators into corporate interal practices and huge penalties for concealment. Our present regulatory culture really won't support either, let alone both.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
12/6/2017 5:48:20 PM
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Re: Smart console wars
I wonder if any anti-trust agency will be able to step in for this recent console war. Google Play and Youtube aren't exactly dominant, but they're pretty close -- depending on how you count the competition. Apple TV isn't exactly a direct competitor. Amazon's FireTV is a closer competitor, but probably far smaller compared to Google or Apple. 

Does there need to be "app store" regulation? So far, the market hasn't quite pushed for it, but if the Apple App Store, Google Play, Amazon Appstore and Microsoft's App store don't play along nicely... maybe there will need to be some regulations? 

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