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DHagar
DHagar
1/28/2016 12:28:13 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
mhhf1ve, excellent arguing points - your statements are convincing. 

Maybe I should state it this way.  I believe that computers "can" do all these things and make logical decisions (sometimes the best decisions), but we may not "want" them to make every decision in that the ethical, moral, and human factors may be minimized.  So I believe we still want the "ultimate" algorithms, decisions, etc., made by humans to retain balance and have the final controls.  Then computers following/affirming those decisions will provide the best results.

I'm an optimist - so I believe our goal is the best human/artificial intelligence combination will provide the best results.

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
1/27/2016 11:46:11 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
With you there--no question as my own experience with what IBM did with the World Community Grid is ever so evident.    But, the primacy of humans has to be factored in.   There should be no compromise on it.

 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
1/27/2016 9:34:04 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
Clearly, we can't and shouldn't let robots take over complete control. But it's also clear that things are getting complex enough that we can't make good informed decisions without some forms of artificial intelligence. IF we didn't have supercomputers to simulate global climate change, we probably wouldn't even care about carbon dioxide or renewable energy sources.... 

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
1/27/2016 8:48:05 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
The problem is the so-called 4th Industrial Revolution that was the topic of discussion and this notion called The "Post Work Economy" I am trying to get my arms around.   We seem to truly be discounting humans--to our detriment.

 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
1/27/2016 7:21:03 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
> we still need people to rule the world!

Heh. Maybe we don't, though.. Plenty of sci-fi stories of "caretaker artificial intelligence" that regulates the economy and applies law and justice in an unbiased way... Okay, we're REALLY far from that future.. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/WritingPrompts/comments/34mumw/wp_an_ai_caretaker_is_tasked_with_watching_over/

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DHagar
DHagar
1/27/2016 4:17:46 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
mpouraryan, agreed - we still need people to rule the world!

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
1/27/2016 2:41:44 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
The key is to remember not to lose the human touch as we strive for more "value add" services and engagement which includes trends like Cognitive learning/etc. that we've had a chance to deliberate on here. 

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DHagar
DHagar
1/27/2016 2:24:36 PM
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Re: Future: Tense
mouraryan, indeed we have not kept pace with technology!  The human intelligence applied to the technology capabilities can offer us so many new opportunities.  We haven't begun to scratch the surface!

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
1/27/2016 4:09:45 AM
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Re: Future: Tense
There is no question we are already here.    I would also humbly suggest that somehow we have to make sure the human touch is maintained in order to create further value.   Sitting in front a computer is not necessarily conducive to progress.    

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mpouraryan
mpouraryan
1/27/2016 4:08:23 AM
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Re: Future: Tense
I found this discourse to be especially poignant--we are all futurists because today is the future that we live through.   The question is whether we have to be overwhelmed by it--or excited by it.    With the open source revolution, the commoditization of hardware, service and the advent of technologies scratching the surface, why can't we embrace the future?  Isn't that the bottom line message as we're winding down the first month of 2016? 

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